<< Space Donut >> This is a conversation I had with a friend about metaphysics. I am Just Happening. I apologize if it is difficult to follow. Strain your brain. Just Happening says: you change your name every day... the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i suppose Just Happening says: well at least you're clever :0 the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: :) Just Happening says: *:) the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: hehe Just Happening says: how fast is the speed of dark? the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i dunno the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i think its pretty fast tho Just Happening says: hehe Just Happening says: it's only the absense of light... the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: perhaps.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: but.... the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: everything is made of matter correct? EVERYTHING? the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: even light is particles and waves Just Happening says: not entirely the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: what isnt made of matter? Just Happening says: time Just Happening says: thoughts Just Happening says: space the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: we're talking physics here :-p Just Happening says: metaphysics actually ;) the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: ok, metaphysics Just Happening says: lol the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: so the only thing that isn't made of matter is the place where nothing exists, not even light the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: and without light, you have dark Just Happening says: not truely.. Just Happening says: the place where nothing exists is nothing... there is nothing to see but it is not darkness.. it is clear. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: it is clear, in that, void of everything the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: correct? Just Happening says: yes the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: so its just "space" Just Happening says: darkness can be only a blanket covering things we see.. Just Happening says: yes Just Happening says: clear is space Just Happening says: it is not clear once it touches something that is matter the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: but without anything behind the space, you have nothing the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: what do you have? darkness? Just Happening says: no the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: if there was nothing behind the "space" what would there be? the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: how can you have 'nothing'? your sense percieve 'nothing' as dark Just Happening says: the space is nothing already.. so if there is nothing behind the space.. it is space. Just Happening says: that is if your senses are primitive... the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: how can you tell there is nothing behind the space if the space is nothing, but extends to infinity? Just Happening says: it is until space touches matter that it isn't space anymore... it is then light on that matter for us to see. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: is matter without light truly matter if it is not to be percieved the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: so i'm asking, can you have matter without light Just Happening says: no unless it is touched Just Happening says: the matter does not exist until one is aware of it. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: and then, at the instant of awareness, the matter is "born?" Just Happening says: no.. it just is there.. it exists.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: but you said before you became aware of it, it didn't exist Just Happening says: it's an appearing and disappearing act... exists.. doesn't exist Just Happening says: off and on the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: ahhh the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose we had a sense of time, a sense of chronological order of the universe, and we could tell each "things" repective place on our timeline, in such that, you could almost date the origins of everything, or, would the 4th dimension, would add another visual plane? Just Happening says: i'm not sure what you are asking.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: what do you imagine the 4th dimension like Just Happening says: air Just Happening says: The fourth dimension is seeing air the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: air such as in particles? Just Happening says: yes Just Happening says: the fifth dimension is when you see the particles of everything around you.. slowly moving but in unison to make whatever object or organism the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i was under the impression that the 4th dimension was time, Just Happening says: nah.. time is manmade Just Happening says: if something has a specific purpose it will do it and only it forever. Just Happening says: I guess you could count the intervals as time.. but that's if you want to include manmade numbers.. such as counting.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: time is not man made Just Happening says: yes it is the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: time is the intervals between events the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: noo...everything does not happen at once-it goes in order the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: and the order is irreversable Just Happening says: everything does go at once but there are sequences followed for each individual event. Everything works together.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: well if there are sequences, then it can't go at once Just Happening says: it's like flowing water... it is all at once but it has stages of where it goes and what shape it takes to wherever it lies. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: ahh, very good analogy Just Happening says: thank you :) the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: and we're sort of a log, thats being floated on the flowering water Just Happening says: exactly... Just Happening says: Everything has its path to travel on, all different paths but interconnected and happening all at once. It is in unison with the universe. Just Happening says: That was a good conversation.. I haven't had one of those in quite some time.. ;) the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: lol the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose...there are different streams Just Happening says: it doesn't matter.. all these streams are a part in the universe the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose there were hundreds of thousands of streams, all running parellel to each other, all right next to each other, but seperate Just Happening says: okay the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose, you could move your log from one stream to the other Just Happening says: then that was your path the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: you were in the same place on the stream, but it was just a different stream.. Just Happening says: that would be cool the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i imagine it would be the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i think that would be the case if the universe really did go on for infinity Just Happening says: it doesn't.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: it doesn't? the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: why not? Just Happening says: there's a certain point where it can't expand any longer.. kind of like a rubber band.. and then it collapses upon itself. Just Happening says: Then it expands again... going over and over. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose.. Just Happening says: So we do the same thing over and over.. Just Happening says: it's only a theory.. hehe the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: we've already determined that for space isn't space if matter is in it the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: err.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: let me say that over again the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: space isn't space if matter is in it the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose Just Happening says: correct the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: at the outer limits of the universe, there is no matter correct? Just Happening says: correct the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: suppose that if there is no matter, there is only space, and suppose, what stops the expansion of that space, isn't that space infinite? Just Happening says: could be.. my mind is still working on what is on the outer part of the universe.. Just Happening says: so now what? the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: i dunno the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: what would limit that space Just Happening says: i'm trying to think of that.. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: and if nothing limits that space, then wouldn't the matter expand infinetly into the space Just Happening says: space and the universe is a donut but reversed... the donut part is space and the hole is the universe... the space part just cycles within itself forever... and it's limit is when the universe reaches its limit. the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: hmm..interesting the only thing faster than the speed of light---> the speed of dark says: so you're saying that there is a limited number of space Just Happening says: i guess so
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